How do I play around a winning lane?

Hello guys. Welcome back to another Vambient jungle guide for like season 16. Today we're just going to be talking about playing with your winning lane. So we talked about avoiding losing lanes before. But we never really went over how to play exactly with the winning conditions on your team and winning lanes on your team.

So let's say if it's top lane you're supposed to bring it down bring him a lead and kind of make him come down to the dragon fight. If you if it is bottom lane we can kind of just play with the support and make sure that the support is you know happy and healthy and ready to win. Same with the AD. If it's you know our mid lane then we can just bring mid lane over to dragon but we do want to be working with these guys in order to grab advantages around the dragon fight because that is what we're going to play for majority of the time. So we are going to be going against Graves.

This is going to be pretty high elo. I am currently challenger in the new season. So essentially ranked had a little bit of reset. If it's your first time here we do have a lot of new viewers. This is going to be a live commentary so Oh.

It's like he is ganking level two. This is some crazy technology I've not seen much before of. He kind of ruined his game, no? I will show you guys why. This is why we always punish people who do this.

We were going to we're going to finish our full clear then we're going to look for a quick dragon plus two scuttles before the dragon. So I will be showing kind of how to deal with this. You know what do you do if enemy jungler ganks first and gets a kill. So the reason why we do have to full clear to the scuttle is because we do want to make sure that we're getting it. So, yeah, I mean, this is pretty ideal.

I'm glad we got to showcase this. We see that bot lane is losing right now, but and we see that mid lane is losing right now. Okay, so this is a very exciting game, right? So, we do want to play with the one lane that isn't losing, but we do lose some tempo cross mapping to the top lane scuttle, right? So, what do we do in this situation?

Well, we're going to find out. So, here we're going to make sure we grab the scuttle. There is a ward here, so we're not going to really worry about ganking right now. If you gank for a losing lane, you're only going to even up the score line, so that basically it's not going to be too effective. We see that Graves is most likely top side, so we are going to steal away one camp, and we're going to not worry about the scuttle.

This basically achieves the same goal of getting a lead in the jungle. So, even though Graves is a faster jungler than us, we are going to be able to counter gank this pretty easily, I think. I think he's going to die here. Oh, we can just go for this guy maybe then. If this guy is going to do this, then we are going to have to go kill him.

Like if they're throwing, then I will accept it, but all no worries, no need to really try for that anymore. We're going to just kind of back out here. And then we're going to have way push mid, or he doesn't even have to push mid. It I would have liked to see him not push mid in that situation. Let the minions die, so Swain can't get them, but I guess it's completely fine.

Like they used a lot of resources there, and we are looking very strong for this sequence down to dragon here. Like this is going to be pretty decent for us. I see they died somehow again. It's fine though, completely okay. Because we are going to just head straight down for the dragon.

You know this is the play. You know this is the sequence that you must do in season 16. This is going to be your winning so your winning play every single game because you do want to secure that first dragon without any tempo loss. So, tempo just meaning time. If you lose time on camps, then you will have to be careful.

So, you have to be careful about doing this just because you might lose so much time that you can't really recover. So, it might be, you know, might not be the best time to slam drag, but if you can get it, do it. So, essentially we didn't lose that much time on our camps yet this game and then we are going to be up one camp. So, we're going to be a fine to just do the dragon in this situation. So, we do want to be preparing to do that here.

I'm going to just start it out without I don't think he should be backing here. This is not a good back for him. Even if it's for some item. It's not going to be very good. Going to just have the upgraded smite here.

We're going to be slamming dragon here. We're going to be pulling it out. And then we do want to make sure to secure this thing. I am expecting that they know about this one because Galio did, he did check, but since we do have everybody kind of back, they're not going to come up and check it. They're not going to be doing this.

It's okay. It's completely fine. We kind of path the wrong there. They double ignited for us so we don't have to do that. Think he goes down again.

It's okay though. He needs to go collect his wave. It's completely fine. This is okay so far. We died for the dragon.

It is good. It is still good. But yeah, basically we know that we have all our camps down. We're going to just visit top lane in 1 second just because we do have a little bit of tempo. You can see the camps are, you know, about to spawn, so we have a little bit of tempo to go back down and sequence our camps correctly here.

I'm going to check it real quick. I think he might have a deep ward here, so I'm not sure if he will step up. It's completely fine if he doesn't. That was just a check. But yeah, we don't really want to do it anymore just because our camps are up and then we're just going to sequence it all the way down.

So, this is still completely fine. This is good. We got the first dragon. They did spend a lot of time killing us, but that should be okay. So, it is completely fine right now at least.

Going down into bot, but we might not slam bot here because we are going to be backing and playing for the void grubs. I think Olaf is definitely used both summoners there. I think Pantheon just didn't have ignite in time, so that is a little bit unfortunate for him. We see that bot is getting pushed in. I think we still have a chance to shut them down on bot, but I don't think it's I don't think I agree with it too much.

Yeah, we're going to just reset after this camp. I think we do have Braum trying to play for it. We're going to just do this though. Look, we're not really too thirsty for it. I think they're all coming.

I don't really think it's good. Yeah, they're all coming. So, we can't really do it right now. We're going to just go for the invade into this. And we're going to trade out grubs.

So, this is really good. Like this is where you kind of want to play avoidant when it seems like everybody has been losing because they've kind of just been dying across the map. Just kind of oh, wait. I thought Galio was going to go to voids, but he ended up not going towards voids. I'm very confused right now.

I have to go back now because they saw me on the ward. Nice. Nice. I'm going to come over because we do want to make sure that Olaf is sitting dead. But yeah, like we do have a little bit of time.

You can see the camp respawn timers. And you can see that we have a little bit of time still, right? So, because we have time, we're going to be fine to just kind of visit top a little bit. Probably just going to have him back, and then we're probably just going to reset here. I think that's okay.

I think he's completely fine here. I'm going to take a second to just take a look here and see if there's anything we can go. He should be dead as soon as he touches the tower here. I want to make him dead. And then here we're just going to go back because we want to reset and collect our camps.

So, >> Okay, we're going to head back here. Olaf is a little bit suffering. We're going to just check. I think he can stop him. He can stop him.

He can stop him. Dude. What? Just fire it. Okay, it's fine.

He definitely should have been able to stop him there. I don't know why he didn't, but it's completely fine. Here in this situation, they're going to be coming out of reset and this is not a good time to actually rush the dragon secure. I might end up just having to give it here just because we're down on tempo and we It's really tough. It's really hard to do this drag here.

Just because they are coming up. Dragging it out here, of course. Going to kill him here. Okay. Definitely cannot be doing this right now.

He is There's just the Swain is always going to come down here. That's why we couldn't do it. Like I don't like all the Oh, wait. Actually, it's looking okay again. We can poke him.

Poke is good. Olaf came down for the dragon secure. Definitely cannot do it now. That's so dumb. Cuz if we engage there and Olaf collapses on us, we will it will be a GG situation.

Like we can't handle that. So, we will have to just give it over. It's fine. Right now, I do not have any winning lanes. So, hopefully with this, Pantheon can pull ahead and he can start winning cuz we did kill Olaf earlier.

So, we have to maybe work that top lane angle now. Unfortunately, because he was kind of greedy and he didn't use his call properly and [ __ ] Like, he did he wasn't able to help join us for the fight. And I also do not like why they're just continuously fighting, but it is okay. It is going to be an uphill battle here because they're kind of running it over and over. It is okay, though.

We're going to go check this area here. We're going to see what's going on. Because he was bought, it is completely okay here. He pinged gray's, but it is actually completely his fault for dying level one to him. He definitely should not be dying level one.

That is a little bit tough for anybody to kind of handle. No, he started it too quickly, my dude. It is what it is. We will have to kill him here. He started it too quick Like, just let him walk a little bit further and he would have been able to get him without us burning too much, but That's fine.

I'm done. I'm done. I was too greedy. Okay. Definitely too greedy there, so definitely my bad.

It's a bit hard to play because I wanted Pantheon to stay a little bit longer, but he ended up going to top lane, which is fine. Wait, kill him. He can definitely do it. He's playing a little bit too passively. It's fine though.

I mean, it's okay. It's okay to play passive, honestly. It's not a bad thing. If Ash was a little bit stronger there, he would have killed him. But yeah, it's completely fine.

I think we're doing okay. It's just Graves got a little bit accelerated, and he also was able to get a team, but like I think all the solo deaths should not really have happened, but it's all good. It does happen, so you know, there's not much you can do about it right now. Why is Ash AFK? Oh, this is not good.

He needs to not AFK here. Stop. Stop. Do not fight this. Do not fight this.

Nice. We got it. Yeah, we just want to play when like everybody is here, and not like when anybody is potentially gone, so we are going to finish off this guy because we do have numbers advantage here. So, it's going to be okay, but yeah, normally Ooh, this is a little bit rough, guys. Little bit rough.

Going to have to take a reset. Always take a reset here and then go to the dragon as a team. So, Is that I should have bought a pink. I have to pull it out real quick. Do not fight when we just lost a player.

Like, oh my god. Okay, we're fine. We're fine. We're fine. Olaf is pretty strong against their comp if Why did he alt?

Did anybody see that? >> [laughter] >> I think my guy just randomly alted away. He could have just alted to mid. That's crazy. Don't want to check that.

We just to go opposite, by the way. Okay. Okay, we're going to go here. Graves made a big mistake by not countering these camps. We're good.

So, dragon is good. All right. So, right now we're looking like we're checking who is strongest on our side. It seems to be Hwei. So, because it's Hwei, we're just going to be looking to play with Hwei as much as possible here, and then we're going to just kind of make sure that Hwei is happy.

We knew that this guy didn't have flash, so he's just dead, but yeah, let's see. We had some time after a camp to kind of just visit the situation a little bit. You guys can gank. Like, it's not too bad. Just remember that you're giving up a lot for it if all your normal camps are not down.

You can leave red. Like, I'm telling like you don't have to spend the entire time like farming red and blue. Buffs kind of don't matter to your regular rotation. You can always skip it and then pick it up next time. It's not that bad.

So, we do understand this concept, right? Like Oh, he's Hey, Olaf is kind of spooky, honestly. He's a little bit annoying to deal with. Graves is going towards my camps here, so I'm going to just reset stuff, chase him around, and then come back for it. I think he's going to be able to get one.

I don't know if he's going to be able to get two, though. He might be able to get this. It's completely fine. Graves is a little bit of a broken champion, so we do have to keep that in mind. This champion is very good.

I needed my Braum to come with me, but he just wanted to play by himself, so it's fine. You do need to kind of control your support sometimes. This is a cross-map play, so Graves should not be doing something like this. We do have to warn him about that. Oh.

Okay, that was crazy. Mhm. Play gets a lot off of that, so it's completely fine. He should be very strong for the next dragon, plus he has flash. So, I honestly don't dislike this play.

Like, I don't dislike him just like going down while drag is down. If he were to go opposite lane right now, then I would have a problem with it, but actually it's not that bad. Here I'm just going to build damage because I have to be the one killing them. I took a lot of kills here. And then it should be fine.

So, we're just going to hang around the dragon. Wait, Graves is top. Wait, he's trolling. We're pinging the drag We're pinging the Baron because they're all on it. Okay, never mind.

Never mind. It's actually fine. We get a lot for this. Dude, why are they out there, by the way? If it's over halfway done, you have to slam it.

Very good. Very good, lads. So, this did turn into a little bit of more of a brawl fest than we would have preferred, but we ended up trading for the dragon. It It's always going to come down to fighting around the dragon. You can see that they're all coming to dragon, and I'm already there at dragon.

Like, you have to just remember that the game does revolve around dragon. Like, just because they got Baron doesn't mean we have to give up dragon, right? Like, they're coming in with full Baron buff, and you know, they're killing our Ash and everything like that. Like, they're committing super hard, but we're already here on the dragon, and then we can just get soul in about 4 minutes here. So, it's going to be very hard for them to fight against soul.

Not completely impossible, right? Like they can still potentially win. It's just going to be like a 20% chance they win and 80% chance we win. So, it's going to be very, very hard for them to win if we get the soul. So, it's going to be fine.

We're going to just chill here, and then I'll buy some items real quick just because I need it. And then I will be back on the map. So, again here, you see me skipping red. You can do this if there's a free kill, right? Like you don't need to stick to your sequence.

You just do your initial sequence, and then you skip. You can start doing stuff like that. Like Graves is just AFK taking farm. That is really bad for their team. Like they should not be letting Graves like do that.

Okay, he's not there. So, it's just Olaf. Olaf >> I'm not going to dive in if I kill myself here. So, I need to kind of work him a little bit. I need to kind of space him a little bit.

It's best if I can just play around with him until Oops. Oh. I definitely made a misplay there cuz he like cuz he is obviously going to just ignore Ash cuz Ash is not strong, so. It is completely fine. Okay, so we do have anti-heal.

This is fine. I was about to buy it, but I don't need to. I'm going to probably just opt in for a Can I afford to wait for this? I don't even know. I think a no, right?

I'll just build this. I think it's fine. I think it's better than the other. We're going to just prepare for dragon now. We do our We do have 15 kills.

We need to keep that in mind. We're very strong in this game. But, yeah. We are like basically honestly, I don't even know like if we learned too much from this. It's just like if all your lanes are feeding, I guess just go 15 and three and just carry it yourself.

I'll do it myself. We need to bring them into dragon pit a little bit. I was not in W. That's really bad, guys. I took too much damage.

This guy has it's I had to be a GA angle. I [ __ ] up so bad. It's really bad. [ __ ] This is bad now. Cuz I basically like had to build the GA.

This makes me take too much damage from everything. I can't even sell it now. It's a little bit unfortunate. I will be selling it later for GA. Ah, a little bit tough.

A little bit tough. We died once and the game is like really really tough now. So, definitely a big mistake. We have to let somebody else go first. But, if somebody else goes first, it's very dangerous as well.

We need damage. It's going to be a very close game now. Cuz we kind of messed up. Okay. We should be grouping at this time.

I kind of have to dodge in and out. and out. Has to be on this guy. He needs to alt. I can't see anything, by the way.

We lost again. I need her to alt. Stop throwing up surrenders. So annoying. It's okay, though.

Damn. We made one mistake and lose the game for it. It is okay. GGs, guys. We didn't really have a winning lane.

It was supposed to be mid, but [sighs] I think Yeah, I think it's just I don't really like this build too much. This is a little bit too weak. They don't even have any magic resist. This is like one item. Like he needed a death cap to be able to kill them.

This is one Like they have nothing, basically, right? Like this is The builds are too weak. Like it's just I think Didn't really have a winning situation anywhere, so. Ah, it is what it is. We did make a mistake.

We do have to lose. Unfortunate, guys. But yeah, that's kind of how it goes sometimes. You can't win them all. It is all right.

I will catch you guys later though, so thanks guys for watching.